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Thank you for your videos. Have you ever think in explore an describe the passive aggressive personality disorder or people with traits of that. Thank you again!!!!!
Thank you for the post.
Hi sam, I don't know what exactly I have in terms of personality disorder but here's how my life goes. I've always been a very shy guy but I feel like I'm shy to the extreme. I can honestly say I have never had a close friend. I try to be friendly with everyone but I grow suspicious that people hate me. I automatically will assume that the person hates me and I avoid them. I avoid most people. I can't stand trying to make friends because its very exhausting. I always have to wonder if they hate me or dislike me. I almost always think they do. At the same time, I do want friends but it takes too much work . I've always been a loner and I hate it. I always think they think I'm stupid and talking to them will reveal that. I feel trapped in my own body. I wish I was normal. Every time I date, I become paranoid and I abandon first before they abandon me. I do feel like I contain empathy and understand other people's pain… but at the same time I feel like I am too different from people and I am not normal i feel… I can honestly say I've never had a period where I was happy in my life.
How dangerous is the covert narcissist? The pathological lying and cheating etc is hard to bear. But I feel much more empathy for him. Are they any more or less capable of love and empathy than the overt?
Do narcissists get into relationships with the intention of seducing and destroying their victims or do they initially show interest in a person because they elicit positive feelings in the narcissistic that the narcissist begins to desire and idealise? It seems to me the devaluation stage occurs when when the narcissist feels their sense of the victim as being ideal is betrayed by anything from a misunderstanding to even a perceived body imperfection in the victim that shatters the allure that the victim originally had for the narcissist.
Is it possible for a Narcissist to possess qualities of covert AND overt Narcissism? And then also, is it possible for a once covert Narcissist to become more overt with time with more Narcissistic injury? Thank you for your videos :)
So a covert narcissist is actually a narcissist themselves? Or does the word just describe people who seek relationships with narcissists?
What is voyeurism & what mental disorder to these guys suffer from, intimacy disfunction?
Is it possible for a female to be a covert narcissist ?
Stinking people, it has nothing to do with love. One of my roomates is female inverted, the other is male covert. No joke.
Dr. Vaknin. Thank you for your highly informative videos, as well as your personal insights into these matters. It seems to me that the Covert Narcissist and the Schizoid personality types are strikingly similar. If you don't mind giving you learned opinion on the subject, what would you say are the major differences between a Covert Narcissist and someone with Schizoid Personality Disorder?
I've known apparent "inverted" narcissists, they live for the confirmation that they are losers because they were victimized. There's no more pathetic kind of person out there. They might have been at one time unwilling victims, didn't blossom after it was over, and reverted back to situations of victimhood to keep their self-concept together. Their identity consists of "I would have been this but". These women who love abusive relationships, love more to prolong the personal illusion that there's something being held down.
+quicksilver3x3 you sound like a typical codependent.
Mr. Vaknin. Thank you for the videos, they have been very informative. I have three questions: When discussing "Love and Sexuality," did you mean to say "classic" narcissist before the first segment (5:37 in video), describing " … constant marital instability/cold and greedy seductiveness/promiscuity/uninhibited sex life … " or are those aspects of the covert narcissist as well? Though it would seem that both types would have constant marital instability, the promiscuity and uninhibited sex life seem to contradict the covert's "suppressing, denying, and keeping-at-bay of their aggressive urges and desires that are socially impermissible." And, if they do act in this way, would it be a "normal" covert reaction to have terrible shame and guilt for giving in to these desires, even if during a short span of time, to the point of denying there was any pleasure derived in the activity? Do covert narcissists often disassociate during sexual intercourse with a spouse? In turn, could they go through a stage of expressing those desires in a promiscuous way for a period of time, and then due to shame and guilt, cut out sexuality completely, even with the spouse? I realize the last two questions are quite specific, but does there seem to be a logical pathology, in your opinion?
The difficult reality of being a covert narcissist ,,, Almost 31yrs old, single, no kids, never married and no potential partners :(
Are you going to do a video on Elliott Rodgers? He seemed to display a lot of narcissistic traits.
Thank you so much for making it clear. This information was very helpful, not to mention a big relief…
Wow, covert… bullseye.
Hi Sam, Can I buy a hard cover version of your book?
Hello sam i was wondering how does a narcissist of lesser iq get on with a narcissist of a greater iq?
I, Yi Yi….It's called Demon Possession. ..the opposite of "Love thy Brother as Thyself"
Can someone be a covert narcissist and have traits of a classic narcissist? Can someone be in between both?
I have to be honest this was harder more complex but I got most of it. Sam will I ever be able to trust again?
Here's an odd one for you…me. I do not harbor grandiose fantasies or have a strong sense of entitlement. I do not exploit others, quite the opposite! I do avoid the limelight but because I'm quiet and reserved, not because I'm afraid of being exposed as fraud…I'm quite honest. I don't feign modesty, and don't have socially-impermissible aggressive urges and desires, any more than most people. I am, however, shy, unassertive and intensely self-critical. But any inner conflicts I have don't result in mood and anxiety disorders…I'm pretty even keeled and stoic. However, I do have a tendency to team up with classic narcissists (not exclusively though), but I don't envy them…I want to believe they have real love in them somewhere, want to bring it out, to heal them, and myself? But once the abuse has reached what I see as an intolerable/hopeless level, I will disconnect. I don't CRAVE to be in a relationship with a narcissist regardless of any abuse, and I don't ACTIVELY seek relationships with narcissists…they actively seek "relationships" with me, and I find them very attractive when they do. But most of all, I feel EMPTY and UNHAPPY IN a relationship with a narcissist, opposite of what you said on that. So, what the hell am I in this N game?…THAT is the question :)
Sam, would it be fair to claim that the fundamental cognitive basis of narcissism is the inability to experience other people's pleasure vicariously? Without this there is no meaning outside of the self.
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I think my biological so called mother was a weird mess of covert and malgnant narcissist I recall both patterns in her that Sam Vaknin describes.