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23 thoughts on “THE VIOLENT NARCISSIST – Triangulation is Aggression

  1. yep, those ppl always boasting they 'know' somebody high up or in authority, and 'i have contacts' etc etc. never fails…they love pulling in this reference and never own their judgment nature.

  2. its only abuse when a man is doing it or maybe i should just man up

  3. Sacha, great message. I would say that triangulation is the early warning red flag of narcissistic abuse.

    My CN ex started with triangulation. He talked about other women when we were in foreplay, or after sex, or in the shower. He did it when we were in happy moments. It got to the point that he just had to mention the woman and I'd react.

    Later, he turned it that I couldn't accept that he had been married before (I'm a raging jealous woman.)

    Every man knows not to talk about ex relationships. If they do, it's on purpose.

  4. I use to beg my father to just hit me and get it over with. The physical abuse was easier. He use to say why can't you be like Nancy ? I was always kinda confused about it. She was my best friend and she always slept over and came on extended camping trips. She was very funny and always laughing, yet she did some very mean things to me. One time when we were in the bed above my parents in the trailer she dropped her panties on my dads face. He got up and was swinging at us but I hugged the wall and she hugged me and he couldn't reach either of us. I use to wonder why she did this. Then just before my 30 birthday I found out he is a pedophile. I think when he was saying be like her he wanted compliance. I fought him every time. Now it's just him, my son and I. He always talks shit about each of us to the other, even to strangers. I am so thankful to you Sasha for telling it like it is. Being abused makes you feel so alone. Hearing others makes me feel strong, determined like this is happening to so many of us it must be for a reason. The knowledge you share is priceless.

  5. i just discovered this channel and love it. Girl youre an angel. Im really mean it! there is a lot of light in your words. Im in a heling period of a toxic relationship with a narcisistic.

  6. it's rough. I really hate this crap! I always ended up feeling stupid, while he enjoyed my embarrassment in front of the monkeys.

  7. Thankyou for your videos. I am in my beginning of finding out about Narcs. Your information is very helpful.

  8. What about people who seem to somehow "prepare" direct harsh critizism by triangulating first. I feel that my person who I suspect being a narc often does this to me. There are various conversations that are fully led by triangulation. I am told multiple stories like your example in the video in just one conversation which alone sometimes feels hurtful to me because I don't see the person I'm writing about very often and still all that seems important talking to me about are various people and how they Do. .. sometimes I don't even know the people she can talk about for felt decades and the relationship between US seems completetly unimportant. When I tell her that she often gets soooo tired all of the sudden and finishes the phonecall. Then a few days later another phonecall full of openly rage and aggression towards me my behaviour my way of living etc. I don't get the chance to say something. When she is done screaming at me she hangs up on me and leaves me alone with a very heavy heart oftentimes. When I try to reflect I recognize various open critizism that she mentioned in the first conversations through a third person. That s when i know she perfectly triangulated me again! A few days later all seems forgotten. She often claims that she didn't had yelled at me or that the conversation never had happened. Do I propably deal with a narc here? Please don't laugh at me. I'm just trying to finden out. If yes, what type is she? Overt? Covert? Both? Thank you very much! :)

  9. Good work! My narc Hoovered me after 5 months of the silent treatment. I took the bait and told her we could talk when she was ready. Then she triangulated me by having another man send an email with threats. I refused to respond. The next day she had a women, a mutual friend, someone ive dated, contact me, telling me she was asked to mediate a conversation. What did I do? I asked her to the movies. What did the narc do? Lets say she didnt take it well. I read/listen to lots of sources on narcissism, and they spell these tactics out so clearly, like when they were born, they got memo I didn't.

  10. Sacha, triangulation is one of the most evil and vile methods of harming an individual, its what my ex wife did to me towards the end of our marriage. It was extremely painful and is the reason why I am dealing with trying to overcome the bitterness in my heart, the triangulation was vile and beyond anything you've probably heard. I am still being hovered and my little ones are being used to hurt me. It seems like the more the narcissist knows you love your kids, the more fierce their tactics.

  11. As usual u r great. Loved the borderline video

  12. Yea it is the same if someone starts gossiping about another in front of you… Huge red flag!

  13. Is it triangulation when a person presents a 'gift' to you? My ex, who had a lot of narcissistic behaviour, came to my place one time and presented me with a bar of cheap soap. When he presented it I felt like the silent message he was giving me was "This is what soap looks like"…and he was expressing that he felt uncomfortable using the soap I supplied, which was liquid castille soap that comes in a bottle.
    It costs a bit more than normal soap and I like it…I like to change brands of products from time to time to keep things interesting, but he had a real problem with my soap. So he gave me this bar of soap but it was really a gift for HIM to use. The last time I communicated with him was about a small gift he gave me that was a shitty little badge with the face of a rabbit on it, and I'm not a badge person.
    I thanked him for the gesture and he said 'I only give gifts that I like"…which pretty much announced to me that he's a Narc and I blocked him after that. A friend later told me that the soap thing was some kind of 'negging' tactic used by Pick up artists to subtly insult a woman under the guise of "giving a gift generously', in order to lower her self esteem so she'll feel like she has to win you over or sleep with the guy to overcome shortcomings? Usually aimed at younger women who are more insecure.

  14. i know to definition

    welL
    .. im an anarchist

  15. Please read. Solution at the end. It's all about taking the blame off of themselves directly. Because they're perfect. They are only the messengers, in their minds.  For me, a better example my narc would do all the time is this. She would accuse me of something minor yet blow it out of proportion. At the same time make it sound like someone else was doing the reprimanding. Example: I was helping her and her visiting family clean out her house.  A few days later, out of nowhere accused me of leaving the back door unlocked that night and said "My brother said, that was very irresponsible of you to jeopardize her safety."  Out of instinct I told her, "Why didn't you check the doors like you normally do before you went to bed? (I went home  earlier that evening while they stayed up.) We all used that door the whole evening."  She got all flustered when I called her out. God, they're stupid. Solution: From that point on, when ever she would  triangulate me like that. I would tell her "Interesting? I think I will have a talk with that person as to why they would say that." That would shut her down instantly. Worked every time. Call them on their bullshit!

  16. Hi. Nothing to comment now. Hope your enjoying your Sunday.

  17. I agree with you that emotional abuse is worse! It is so difficult for me to explain what went wrong and the degree of hurt I feel. http://michelleiafreefromcrazy.blogspot.com/

  18. Thanks Sacha. Can you give an example of shutting them down please. Thanks Kim

  19. These examples are priceless.

  20. Or the third person calls you telling the narcissist is too hurt to talk to you.

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