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The Role of the Narcissist’s Friends
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I have given the topic of narcissism much thought and it occurs to me that it must surely be an impossible job for NPD to be formally and accurately diagnosed. Virtually every single person I know has narcissistic traits, myself included. Being conscious of this and not wishing to be a narcissist, I consciously try to move as far from the narcissist traits I posses as I possibly can (and by doing this one could classify me as a covert narcissist as some have believed Jesus Christ might have been). What I find is that if one tries this and attempts to eliminate all narcissism, one becomes very depressed. Sam says in another video that some narcissism is healthy and natural (and indeed necessary). I agree with that and so the only question really is the extent and level of narcissism one possesses. How can this be measured? And who is to say it is "too much". And finally, can the narcissist really be criticised for being that way given that it seems to be natural and not something they conscious try to do or can control? Who doesn't like to be around people who make them feel good, do not challenge them and do not criticise? I know of nobody who likes and welcomes criticism. Sam mentions that the narcissist "uses" people but even "good" and "healthy" people use others; e.g. using another human to procreate.
The narc i know seems to be having alot of "ups" with his social life , he has alot of support and what you would believe to be good friends, has anyone noticed that their NARC was isolated or lost the friends? Sam, mentioned that they lose their friendship circle, i dnno, i think he's wayyy to good at manipulating, hel always have them
do narcissists have a hard time with criticism? get defensive over nothing? pretend they are lofty all-knowing thinkers so that people will like them and then get mad when they are challenged?
Do narcissist sometimes convince their former friends that they themselves are narcissists? And accuse them of the very thing they do?
I just had a little blowout with my narcissist friend the other day. It went this way: I made a comment about how I'm trying to be a good father to my kids and he (somehow) took this very personally – as if I was somehow judging his performance as a parent. there's a long history of this guy being irrationally insulted by friends/acquaintances in this way – maybe it's that he feels threatened by the accomplishments of others. Either way, the positive thing is that he started a fight during this conversation and told me to get out of his life.
actually i cant be fucked dealing with wanker narcissist who seeks to have a loser for their elegence they are actually very average themselves i wish i was friends with way more successful friends from school who are much more everything creative funny and easy going and not a wanker in everyday life fuck this im actually living my own life which i knew from avery long time ago
Holmes is not a narcissist and Dr. Watson, if you read the Books, is far from being a sluggish sidekick. Holmes contineously admits mistakes, points them out even when it´s not necessary, openly admits that his older brother Mycroft is better at deduction than him… his driving force isn´t self-love but pure boredom. Holmes can´t stand boredom and is therefore addicted to his work (and, if there is none, to cocaine)…
and in your VIDEO:
Body Language of Narcissistic and Psychopathic Abuser
AT 10:40 you actually perfectly described this major PROBLEM.
So I believe that there is much bigger danger for the VICTIM to end alone and rejected by entire close society circle.
as S/He starts to address the problems and realise that person is Sick
those AAK -friends will do the rest of the Character Assassination.
They have no idea what the real Persona their IDOL is.
?
"N" is extremely cautious & they DON'T present THEIR REAL NATURE to their Friends
In facts "N" keeps an Clique of Flowers & Acquaintances (usually very superficial people)that are so happy to bask in a NARCS glow.
They don't have real friends-for No One knows them for w.are !
I believe part of your statement implies more on the VICTIM of a Narcissist
for
once S/He starts to brake an ILLUSION in Public it offends all those AKA-"friends"
all Abandon him/her AND Start Character Assassination.
Where do you get help? No one even believes me when i seek help. I had to research and find this out on my own. I didn't even know what i was going through as the victim of a narcissis spouse.
You can't be a friend with a narcissist they just use and abuse you until you can't take it anymore.. They are controlling, manipulating, liars, abusive, paranoid, have no emotions or empathy.. They are abusers and play mind games… I had a friend who was one and after two years of her abuse I got away from her.. I feel sorry for her next victim.. you have no idea what you will be going thru!
The Role of the Narcissist's Friends
yes this is very true!.. it all depends on the victim of the abuse {because the NPD person will never see themselves as they are]…and there will be abuse of some kind…what can they live with? How much can they take??
These videos are crystal clear once youve been tormented by an npd person. Very clear indeed.
Don't think of it in terms of black and white. Narcissistic personality traits exsist on an continuum with full blown narcissistic personality disorder on one end and an idealized "perfectly healthy person" on the other. Someone can have a high degree of narcissism and still have the ability to empathize in certain situations
i believe i know 2 friends who are both narcissists.they rely on each other somehow for supply..i beleive this is possible due to the fact that they are opposing types one cerebral the other somatic.one is highly sexual the other is almost asexual
Just came across your videos and I am really enjoying them. I'm looking forward to more. I am both a survivor of an abusive and violent marriage to a narcissist as well as a student of psychodynamic theory and going into the helping profession. I suffer from many of the survivor symptoms you have discussed in other videos, and I find myself tirelessly fascinated with narcissistic/psychopathological psychology; as if I desperately need to understand in order to avoid becoming revictimized.
Narcs are manipulative based on my experience. The difference between me and a normal narc is the fact that I don't manipulate because I oppose sheepism.
Sam, Can a Narc see another person as a narc or are they blind about these characteristics in others?
I know a narc, the more I have given gift and help the more he has resented me, only to come back to me a bit later on when severed of relationship. Far from loving, even If you pity them you are almost doomed into their trap. Some N are hardly evil but just an innocent child trapped into their adult bodies. It is tempting to forgive them at one's own detriment. BEWARE!!!!
I know a Narc female and can almost accurately predict her next move and even future intention. Narcs are very predictable people if you know them closely. But I know I can never win over her since she can overcome any negative or positive reaction from my part. The only answer is to abandon a Narc, – I am no winner since she has nothing more to lose but only to gain her N supply by moving on in life. If I stay with her, sure I'm the loser. 'Fortunately', she is just a distant relative.
Sam, sorry to say that yourself-confessed Narcissism has come to play a bit in this video. You are quoting complex people beyond reach of normal understanding. But in other videos you are an absolute genius. At least you're trustful and very self-aware. Perhaps, human is dynamic and has the ability to transform and you can be one. Watching your videos, it appears no one is normal, if not we could be really classified omniscient with perfect emotion, – that can never exist at least in mankind.
Sam, I know a classical N in work who acted as though he had answer for everything yet he would come to me for views /opinions when there was a need. Once he got my views, he would downplay it later on as though he owned the idea, almost lying to himself. He sounded like a ridiculed person but dead serious about his self-importance. Sadly many people fall into their traps but at the same time knowing that s/he cannot be taken seriously. They are like a joke in place of work.
Why Narcs do not comment here and give their views? I think because they are either blind without a need for help/ therapy, see others as narcs but themselves or do not believe that narcs can exist among humans. In fact they believe that they are victims rather than oppressors, that people do not understand them., their needs, etc. They are children in adult bodies with temper tantrums. Some in fact take victim role when there is a need for to get their supply. Narcs are easily picked out.
Don't agree that they act similar way like anyone else. Narcs have a VERY distinct way of behaving in social milieu. ..always in the process of control and seeking attention and adulation. Read more on the topic.
It is classical of a Narc to criticize and downgrade all those above him since he is worried to look inferior. Downgrading good/able and intelligent people is one way of appearing superior by the jealous and haughty narc. S/he can never see/acknowledge the good on anyone else but himself, even the best friend they may have. Most often the good friend is the one who takes a subordinate role and is, therefore, well accepted by the Narc.