Narcissists are not grounded in reality, they are delusional and engage in magical thinking, therefore it is quite easy for another manipulator, like a Sociopath, …
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How To Con A Narcissist
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It is interesting and I've seen it happen. I've seen an overt give belongings away repeatedly to new people she came across that might be of a higher social class. She was hoping that having a relationship with them, would increase her own status somehow. It just takes another sick person to come along and take everything and it did happened to her. She was so money, power and status oriented that she would get fooled while trying to fool others.
accurate, great video
From my experience, Narcissists are very predictable, Sociopaths are very unpredictable, so just based on that alone, the Sociopath has an advantage
So true. My sister, the narcissist got conned by a sociopath.
I see this situation playing out in my life. The narc is using the sociopath in a triangle relationship to take control over third person and the sociopath is using narc by stroking their ego to get away with what they don't want to do. They are using each other, know how to work each other, and don't mind that each individual is using the other. The problem lays with the third person being mistreated by both the narc and sociopath. The narc and sociopath use their united power to harm and get control of third party, so my question is… How does the third person deal with the issue.
If I knew my narcissist was gaming me I could have taken so much. She trusted me with passwords, pins and an unlocked safe full of money and she gave me anything I wanted. That's what made it so hard to believe she didn't love me in all the many ways she showed me her hate.
How gullible would a sociopath be by comparison? I had my share of fun with my narc's/sociopaths on April fools day in years past. How telling would gullibility be as to where on the cluster B spectrum someone sits?
Wow! You had me right up to the last sentence…
Through the video I was thinking 'well, that explains how my brother got to be the Golden Child and how he was able to con my mother so easily, even when my other siblings and I could never figure out how our mother was so enamoured by someone who was such a jerk'. Although neither has been diagnosed as such (neither, of course have any problems), I have done a lot of research on the topic and am sure that my brother is almost certainly has anti-social personality disorder and my mother almost certainly narcissistic personality disorder. A match made in hell… (especially for the rest of us).
BUT your ending OUCH!!! Yes, that type of interaction might indicate a narc-psycopath relationship. HOWEVER it might also indicate a manipulative person (narc, psychopath, etc.)-codependent relationship. Given how many codependent individuals are brainwashed by their manipulators into thinking that they (the codependents) are the ones who have all the problems and cause all the trouble, I suspect that there are now many codependent people who watched this video and are convinced that it must be true, that they must be the narcissists themselves. A quick scan of the comments shows that there are at least a few…
really sharp salespeople can sell a narcissist the clothes they are already wearing
Sacha, u r the greatest. U really helped me. I am so glad u got so much info to share to help others. So glad u make videos
omg my Husband never pays me back the money he promised to pay me back
you make it sound as tjough its all conscieous and i dont thik it is.dont know why and what about psychopathy.?
Well i was conned by a narcissistic sociopath, but later found out they had been conned by someone else before that. So people need not jump to that. I would say you can tell by how they react to being conned. Narcs get upset because they were outsmarted, and targets get upset because of the lack of justice and blame themselves.
You are so correct . You can beat the narcissist at his own game once you realize that you are in fact dealing with one.I have used manipulation to completely crush him and get my revenge.I knew he was in need of supply and gave it to him..his supply of choice? compliments and high praises.Then I completely cut him off.He couldn't stand it.They are wounded children.Shaming is the worst for him.I believe the issues stems from his mother,she also trid to manipulate me but I was too strong for her.I will confess this.I believe I have changed from a codependent to a narcissist because of my narcissist.Once I sense manipulation being thrown my way,I go full force to annihilate.Us codependents have to protect ourselves from these predators.No contact is not for me I have to battle the narcissist head on.I will not tolerate abuse anymore.Thank you for stating that you can beat the narcissist at his own game.
i think thats why they can have a high status because there so wrapped up in there own little word thinking there better and laughing at everyone else. there oblivious to ppl laughing at them i think they generally believe ppl that dont like them r jealous
True, if you know their game, you can play them like a fiddle.
So, this is a new one for me, it also sounds like something my own adult children say about their dad and his second wife, who came in through adultry..my ex was her 5th husband. Her dad was a CIA agent, and an abusive alcoholic. Each man she had she stole from, three had prior wives and children she destroyed. My ex has not gotten perhaps what he deserves with some one so toxic , so mentally ill he actually listens to her like a co dependent and he enabled her while my children were in visitation by allowing her to belittle, abuse my children, lock them in rooms tell them terrible things and he just added to it. Both being alcoholic, yes I would say she is sociopath as a narcissist…….she made him look better which he was not, he was unemphatic, cold hearted especially to his own children. They also had photos of themselves on all the walls in their oversized home they were never at traveling separate all the time. For a long time moving all the time..my oldest daughters would tell me that when they went into the house they were at it looked and had that smell as if no one lived there. Every little thing was in the same place as if nothing had been touched until the next time they were suppose to go there and visit. We often wonder if this might actually be true. The ultimate of narrcissists are people working in Narcissistic positions the airlines, the CIA government agencies, and other jobs…….everything is a secret and over blown.
I have to agree with you. I noticed they had certain weaknesses too. I didn't realise what I was dealing with at the time but I admit I did use a bit of manipulation on one to get her to curb her actions towards an ex partner.
gets stoned from it. hahahahaha!!! that's too funny, yet so try. which is what made it funny lol
I like your shawl too. You're gorgeous and smart. Thank you.
you are such a blessed girl to be able to share all your experiences with the world! I have been there,
few times, and is so good to see someone can understand the situation completely like you do! it is disgusting to remember how those evils acting, but always is better be aware and wise about them! thank you, from Australia x
Another thing that makes the narcs so easy to manipulate, is the fact that they loooove to talk about themselves for hours…meanwhile the psychopaths listen very carefully giving them the attention they crave for. Once the psychopath has profiled the narcissist, then…game on.
What happens when two narcs work together? Conflict? (one in my life is claiming to be the victim of his boss who sounds like a narc.)
Lol.. you're too cute!
Good information, but your sound quality is distracting.
That's true. They con and get conned all the time.
You are so cute! I love your shawl and attitude. Keep smiling!!!
There are narcissist and psychopath couples and they are a toxic tsunami to deal with.
My in-laws are very gullible. They almost sold their house to a nigerian type scam. They were selling their house and a "doctor from England" saw it on line and wanted to buy it full price. They were so taken in by the fact that they must have such a gorgeous house that anyone would want to buy it. The "doctor from England" was going to send them a cashiers check for more than the amount of the house that he wanted them to cash and send him back the difference. LOL. I had to point out to them it was a scam. They couldn't believe I had "figured it out" that it was a scam.
I think you're correct – Further, i think the line between narcissist and sociopath lies strictly in societally recognized 'ability' – , i.e., IF the same f%cked up behavior is present in a janitor vs. a supreme court justice – we, as a species and society will give it different labels.