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When I first looked at this video I remember wishing the question was Is Your Borderline a Narcissist. I don't necessarily believe the idea that if you're questioning whether or not you are a narcissist then you are not. I am questioning myself and I feel its for some good reasons and wish I could find support. The most I can get along these lines is Sam Vaknins comment That being a psychopath sucks. So does being a narcissist.
Hi Richard,
A an amazing guy I have met gave me your name & said I should really look at some of you videos on YouTube.
And wow! Watching has made me believe my X husband of 25 years, definitely has borderline personality disorder.
Thank you, for your information, I wondered if you had more videos on bpd.
Eddie T.F. Out:
In 2009 I was dumbed, a virgin mind to cluster B, not tainted on the spectrum of types of personality’s disorders or influenced by professional to encourage my direction to selfheal. It’s hard to express then but now a “good” place to start; God blessed me with an anticlerical mind and my nature to fix, repair, and remodel material items that save money or improve one’s life. I have one mantra I repeat to myself when faced with a “can’t”, “Ok, David, you are in the middle of the desert miles from no one, BUCK UP and DO what needs to be done”, put one foot in front of the other. But this dragon in front of me is from another fucking galaxy, a whole new “Twilight Dimension”, concepts, variables, and a rubik cube of rubik cubes; to top it off was my brain was not hitting on all cylinders.
What I am about to express was a very slow slithering low crawl to enlighten. There is a big difference between NPD and BPD, it’s the co-morbid that if one is not a mental health professional, plus been through a life crisis with one it’s hard to ascertain the nuances between the two and how they relate to each other. Just for the record I had been mined fucked by a BPD waif, the worst of the worst; added I never received professional help!
Let me set the stage, I was in that relationshit for six years, five major break ups, several mini episode of “go away- come here”. At first I was pushed into the ocean surfer, I’d swim back, dry off start to heal, pushed back in further, swim back in dry off- heal. First few times I was damage goods but reasonable salvageable
(DABDA), long story short the last time out the dragon ate my ass!
When I started the quest for answers it was 2009, the internet was in the embryonic stage of cluster b discussion, therefore I was guided to BPD first. At first there was very few non BPD support site. To get to these site I had to run the gauntlet on the internet directing me to understanding, support of, and how to living
with a BPD. It did take effort on my part to find sites that I very much needed non-bpd. Today is much problematic to secure
a reliable and knowledgeable non BPD support site.
In my opinion now I do feel the feminist “establishment”,
because of the stigma or label that it’s mainly a “women” (it’s not) condition, there is a conspiracy to redirect/manipulate the attention to its “all” NPD. People start with NPD, learn from there then branch out, the sun rises in the east and sets in the west. I started from the sun sets in the west and rises in the east. Because of my azimuth I am able to split the atom for lack of better words, they is an enormous difference, separately can destroy, together they make a nuke to vaporize the human mind. ******************************************************Richard, sad to here that you moved, I plan to retire to Thailand in a few years, would of been nice "skip over" and kill a few pints while discussing how to slay dragons…
narcisstes are basicly the opposite of borderlines on the inside, i really don't like it when people say they are the same things, a borderline can act like a narcissite to hide their emotions, and narcissites act kind to get what they want, just because they seem alike they are opposites,
Please guys, I have borderline personality disorder, I want you to realise that BPD and NPD are two completely different things, I grew up with a narcisstic parent.
Narcissists think they are Gods gift to life, they try to control everything and everyone. They'll act like they're a great person around other people, then behind close doors they'll make out like you're a burden and you're worthless.
My experience with BPD is basically fear of being abandoned, if there's a chance of this happening for example, finding out your bf is cheating, then yes, I'd get really destructive, I'd self harm, I'd threaten suicide, I'd try and leave the guy before he left me. Then yes we do actually feel guilt, and so when I apologise for acting out, I mean it. BPD's tend to constantly apologise for things that aren't even their fault because they are so scared of a person leaving them they have to make sure they haven't upset anyone. I am able to feel empathy and am not set out to destroying others lives. As far as my impulsiveness goes… I tend to idolise people and so will spend crazy amounts of money on them without thinking. And no we do not use this against them in the future, it's all about enjoying making that person happy and helping them so that they like you.
BPD's experience feelings of self worthlessness, like they don't belong here, like they are unlovable, and are very needy, their mood is constantly alternating between 'everything is great and amazing' to 'everything is pointless', there's never really any 'grey area'. In fact studies have shown that Narcissists tend to attract BPD's towards them and abuse them because they are so easy to manipulate and a BPD is so co dependant that whatever a Narcissist says a BPD will assume is correct and we look at them as if they are God, we are easily fooled.
As a BPD when I know I've done or said something that's upset someone, as many others do, we will immediately back track and try our best to put things right with that person. We will always admit that we are BPD and that we overreact a lot, we will admit when we are wrong, and can understand how others feel. So please do not get us mixed up. Yes we can be very stressful to be in a relationship with, but only as it would be with someone who suffers from bipolar or clinical depression.
Thank you very much. Good day to you all <3 peace ooooouuuttt meh
I think that these so called "personality disorders" are just a normal part of being a Narcissist. All my life i attracted narcissist people, and every single one of them had these disorders just to a different degree depending on the situations. I haven't yet met a non-narcissist person who had any of these personality disorders. I think for them it's just a normal thing but since we can't identify with it we must put it in the "mental illness" category.
I came to learn through months of intense psychotherapy on these disorders that my wife who discarded me is a raging covert narcissist and I am a codependent borderline. I haven't yet heard any life coach make this connection and can't understand why. I thought we were the perfect match and all her projecting about my projecting led me to all the answers I needed to understand what's been going on all my life. Ironically I thought true love meant having a wife who understands me. Was I ever surprised to find my marriage was just my favourite movie and she my favourite actress but even more surprising was my surprise because strangely I knew all along but could never bring myself to watch that part.
My husband is Borderline/Narcissistic. He is actually a "ticking frootlope"!!! You'll never know where his "fire-cracker" thoughts are going!!!! In other words-he's all over the board with emotions and verbal abuse. Cannot have a "normal" coversation with him-right away it's all about him and his feelings. He thinks "his feelings" equal "the truth"
which is why you cannot have a "normal" coversation!!! Everything reverts back to him-no matter what you try to say!!! It's all about him-and he cannot comprehend another person's point of view. He gets very argumentive and aggressive when people challange his feelings and thoughts. Like I said"he's a ticking froot-lope" !!!!!!Hi Richard. I have spent the last five years trying to find answers s to my mother's behaviour towards me. t spans over 35yrs of my life but was probably experienced earlier than this. As I have grown up there has been controlling behaviour,manipulation and what I now know as gas lighting a feeling of being disorientated as she denies things said in front of others ,or said when it is just two of us. Having listened to ur videos I know what I have gone through and still do due to personal circumstances. I have not had a clinical diagnosis but I know when I have confronted her she reframes what I have said so that it is me that is to blame. I am trying to walk away from this situation but my present circumstances don't allow me to get out of the situation. I have approached organisations for help as I know what I have experienced & continue to experience is emotional abuse. Your videos on narcissists are a match for what I have experienced. Where do I go from here?Everyday I am in thus situation challenges my emotional & mental well being. I would value your help & incite on this matter. Thank you.
Thanks a lot for this video. I'd like to quote this part:
— A pure borderline, which is basically a benign borderline, very easy to deal with. They just need support, they need empathy, need to be told "I'm not going to abandon you, I do value you, you are a good person. And then you just remain emotionally constant when their doing the "borderline thing" with the emotional dysregulations that they up and down. And the more constant you are, more you can bring the borderline back into your emotional constancy. One could say that sounds like a kind a of cure for a borderline. It will work for people who are not very much borderline. If you are a benign borderline, it will work. Because they LEARN borderline from somebody else.
My comment:
This may work for a borderline with well working brain and a not too severe Axis-I disorder. Even a benign borderline frequently has a hard time feeling empathy towards others, so they can be malign at short periods of time, when enraging or just under strong emotional pain, and this includes having the need to inflict pain on others in order to feel better with herself. Afterwards, they may feel guilty and make amends, but only if they notice that their behavior will have negative consequences for them. And as drama addicts, they may also use conflict seeking behavior to fulfill their emptiness, which is very disturbing. This is all mostly true for borderline woman with some sort of brain damage (what's very common), as they may have no insight into their own behavior.
All Borderlines are narcissistic. The more stable the Borderline, the more narcissistic they are! Richard, please take this rubbish down! It's giving us a bad name!
I cannot decide if he's a narcissist.
He's rude, moody and hates just about everyone, but he is not violent or verbally abusive to me. He just gets offended really easy and talks crap about everyone. He disappears for no apparent reason. Just stops calling. He works for himself because he would never answer to a manager/boss at a regular job. He cuts me down in the form of jokes. He expects me to be ready at a moments notice. Wants to see me everyday. Calls several times a day. Then POOF! He's gone. Cheating? I have no idea, but I wouldn't be surprised. He's just weird!! Oh and, he's very into his body. Used to be a male stripper and used to go to the gym everyday until he hurt his back.
I'm starting to think my soon to be ex husband has borderline as well as narcissism. He attempted "suicide" with a loaded shotgun to his mouth when I said I was leaving him and taking the kids. It was something typical he did to threaten suicide and he was definitely a drama queen. I wonder if the two are comorbid.
As intelligent as you are, and highly adept at seeing personality disorders as well, I have to say I think you are wrong about there not being a genetic pre-disposition of BPD. I have BPD and Bipolar (Cyclothymic) Disorder, plus some other mental illnesses, and did you know that 20 percent of all Borderlines have Bipolar Disorder? And 20 percent of people with Bipolar ( all types ) are also Borderline? It is even said that the sheer emotions that a mother has toward her unborn child can have effects on the growing fetus. You should look up Marsha Linehan. She is the creator of Dialectical Behavioral Therapy (a conjunction of Cognitive Behavioral Therapy and some eastern techniques) that was originally tailored to help severely suicidal patients with BPD, but can also help those suffering from Bipolar Disorder, Addictions and even PTSD. She has been helping people to recover for some thirty years, I think. And has just recently, in the last few years, come out as she, herself, having BPD and going through what it takes to recover. She is highly respected in her medical field, and since she knows what it is like to be BPD, she was able to use her intellectual mind as well as her emotional mind to understand how to help them. Which only makes sense. Every individual human being with BPD is just that. An individual. Same goes for Narcissists. I do agree that Narcissism has a strong link in some cases, but fail to agree on people with BPD are usually people with NPD. In my case, I feel way too much of everything. My feelings. Anyone's feelings. And triggers to emotional stimuli from having had abuse in childhood and throughout my life. A lot of the time I fail to have an emotional filtration system. I haven't been a saint either, but actively research, go to therapy, and even thought the removal of a growing arachnoid cyst in my brain ( full craniotomy! fuck ya! haha 🙂 would help as I thought it may be exacerbating my problems and depression. My ex is definitely a Narcissistic Borderline. I also have Borderline and I believe our love was very real. Cosmic even. Because to truly understand what someone is going through, you have had to at least go through what they have in one way or another. I believe a small percentage of Narcissists can recover. But you can lead a horse to water, but not force him, or her to drink. Ha. Water! Where the tale of Narcissist begins. The reflection. There are many levels of NPD, and BPD and those who STAND UP and OWN who and what they are, then and only then can we heal and grow with wisdom. To learn to live again, or for the first time. This can be achieved. But it is a very daunting task. I love hearing everyone's take on these issues, whether I agree completely or with a few key points. Sorry this post was extremely long! Just trying to help out where I can! Thanks for your video! :)
SOmeone close to me shows all the traits but when i confront them i feel crazy and like im the narc . IF I Am i want to get help its got to the point that i dont sleep and avoid closefriendship as im ashamed of the situation and and don't want to admit the things I have tolletated and excuse away.
Love your videos. They've been a huge help to me. I have a confession, though: I kept thinking to myself "why does this guy look so goddamn familiar?" Then it dawned on me…you look like the illegitimate love child of Bruce Willis and Mel Gibson.. if…they…in fact… had the proper equipment to…produce a….love child! I mean that as a compliment, as well as to inject some humor into my godawful and ill conceived post . Two of my favorite action heroes growing up by the way. The familiarity of your looks and your well researched mental health opinions have a magnetic way of keeping me engrossed and invested. Anyway, keep up the great work!
Does it matter if I am wrong about my ex being a narcissist?
Even if she's a borderline, I'm not trying to fix her, I'm just trying to learn to be more self assertive to deal with her.
So, my question is, does it matter if my diagnosis of her is wrong?After all, I'm trying to fix myself, not her.
This is really deep for me.
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I've looked at narcisism and I'm pretty sure my ex is narcisistic; no empathy, only concerned with herself, she's perfect so everything is my fault, I did all the work and she took all the credit, twists facts and makes me question my own sanity, lies to get what she wants and wants to destroy me if I say no to her, has twisted everything so she has all the advantages and I am left with all the responsibility.
I'm just coming to grasp with the fact that I am a co-dependent and just starting to admin that to myself(although I think I've been recovering last few years, just through self discovery of how to defend myself from narcissism.)
I was absolutely sure she was narcissistic, now on top of that there's borderline personality disorder? (I have no idea yet, what it is or how I could be wrong about her being narcissistic, that she could actually be something else?) I guess I'm going to find out today!
Hang on, could I have borderline personality disorder, not her?
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I think we all have to become experts in sociology just to recover from narcissistic abuse!
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Thanks for the incredible volume of information!
It remains unclear, what exactly are the typical behaviors and the thinking behind a narcissistic Borderline Personality Disorder. It's important to know it, because it seem the power behind parental alienation..
Thank you for your video. It explains why I was wondering always if he is a only a borderline or also a narcissist. So, OK, comordi the… He is for sure Borderline, but when he acts badly, he does like the narcissist does. I have watched a video entitled : Narcissistic Relationships 101 and she explains everything the Borderline I know does. Well everything. I was confused since he has the 9 caracteristics of the Borderline. OK, conclusion, he is Borderline with narcissim traits. Thanks
Meet a drunk, violent man on a Saturday night, violent one minute, crying the next, borderline personality.
My dad is both, and he cannot be regulated unless you forget about yourself and your own needs completely, he is NOT evil, as many ppl think narcissists are. A narcissist suffers, a psychopath don't. Theres a differences. But..I couldnt never put my dad in any of the two categories, NPD or BPD, cause it's something inbetween.
Genetic methylation defects can cause disordered personality traits.
I know it long but I need help. Wow the way your relationship ended was the same as mine. I dumped my ex after being together for 4 years. He was a friend of mine since we were 13 years old and we used to always have an attraction towards each other. When I was 23 years old I got a call from him and we got to talking. We fell in love during that time and it was an amazing start. Even when were friends and when we were together we could talk about anything. I know a lot about him and he confided a lot to me. After I found out he was a narcissist I figured out a lot more stuff looking back at everything he told me. He used to get in fights with his dad so that showed me they didn't get along. He would also talk bad about his dad sometimes so I can see he hated him. I couldn't understand why he didn't get along he had good parents. Finally it hit me he couldn't relate to his dad because his dad was white while my ex was biracial. So this all came together with how much I know about him. I can even recall a time when we were 17 and he called me hysterically crying about how his brother had left him. I had to calm him down and I couldn't understand why he was so upset. I mean he was crying so much and said that how could his brother leave him and that his brother didn't love him. So there I can see that he related more to his brother than his dad. His brother was black and he was close to him since he was young. I feel we can all see these patterns if we remember back when we spoke with the narcissists. Well before this relationship though my first love was a manipulator so I learned how to be cautious because of him. I learned a lot about being manipulated and what to lookout for. This first narcissists eventually went away after I dumped him so it was easier to get over. So after him I vowed I wouldn't let anyone treat me the way he did. Back to my last ex I fell for him because we had started as friends and he was a Christian. We had that part in common and I enjoyed talking to someone about life. Yet even with him I was cautious it took us a year to have sex and he started talking to me about getting married. He wanted marriage and children and I told him I did too. Still I was hesitant throughout the relationship I had this uneasy feeling about him. Everything seemed perfect and his mom even ended up going to my house to ask me when I was planning to get pregnant. I felt a little offended since I was still not thinking about having them soon and not even my mom had asked me that. Ever since my first narcissist ex I was afraid to make the big step. Still he assured me he wanted all this. I told him we would do it and we would talk about it a lot. Anyways one time I found texts on his phone and he was going to meet a woman that week to have sex. That day I had just gave him a full massage and we were joking and talking. Mind you just those past months I had grieved with him two friends deaths that he had. I was so heated as he was sleeping I grabbed the phone and threw it at him. We got in a huge fight and he told me she was contacting him. Again since I knew about manipulation from my first narcissist I told him to call her up. I spoke with her and she told me everything and even after that I still loved him. I went back with him until I found out about another woman he was talking to just a few months after that one. That's when I dumped him and didn't want nothing to do with him. I know abandoning him hit him hard since he could talk to me about anything and I know a lot about him. I was even friends with his first love who I didn't see as a close friend because she came through as snotty. Turns out she treated him like trash and she cheated on him and was racist to his mom. Anyways he called me for two months and went by my house. I was still in love with him when I finally figured out he was a narcissist. I told my mom and sister about his cheating and my sister didn't believe me. My scumbag of a brother in law talked to my sister and he told her that wasn't true. Yet just a few months ago they both were present for my argument with my ex. I was at a lost and got upset because just a few months after we broke up my ex got a girlfriend. My sister started hanging out with them and her husband. I got in a fight with my sister and told her how can she doing this to me. I couldn't figure all this stuff out and how could my sister be taking my ex side. It took awhile but I got to put everything together. It finally all made sense my sister's husband, his friends and my ex were all the same peas in a pod. My suspicion on my brother in law hit after I found out by my mom that he was talking to his ex behind my sister's back again. This happened after my ordeal and my sister had problems with him before in their marriage. This is why it never made sense with me that my ex and brother in law would get along. Well one week before Valentines day he came to my house after my mom had told him to stop coming by. I confronted him and told him what a manwhore he was and that how could he treat me the way he did. I told him don't you remember the way your ex cheated on you. I know that he doesn't like to talk about that because it hurt him when she cheated on him. I almost saw empathy but he quickly got over it. That week after I confronted him and he knew he was going to bring his gf over he proposed to her on Valentines Day. They were only together for 7 months. Well we had a party and my brother in law invited him with his new girlfriend. I sat and I told her I needed to tell her something. She ended up giving me her number and I told her everything. My sister and everyone else found out I told her. Well that happened and she stayed with him and it's been a year. I prayed to God to keep him away so I could get through this. Well I was granted my prayer but it's been a year and I'm still kind of hurt. I don't like him anymore but it just pisses me off how he treats women. By the way my sister, her husband and their friends who also became friends with my ex while we were dating are going to the wedding My scumbag cheating brother in law is the best man. After a year I've managed to remain friendly with my sister even after all she did to me. I love her with all my heart and know that her husband being a narcissist isn't easy for her. I see it in her daily life how his alcoholic irresponsible self affects her. I have noticed that my narcissistic brother is very envious of my sister and I. He doesn't have a good relationship with his two brothers and my sister and I being in good terms bothers him. As well as my mom is amazing and she has always taken care of us and loved us very much. His mom on the other hand used to steal money from her own son and did the same to his dad. He has hate for his mom which is most likely why he's a narcissist himself. Well after a year they came by this past Sunday and his girlfriend came into my house and didn't even say Hi when she came in. Before she left she said bye to me and I didn't say anything to her. He was around and what's funny is that before he used to greet me and I would ignore him. When I told his gf about him now he's indifferent to me which I find hilarious. Well I need help this next Saturday is my sister's birthday and my idiotic brother in law invited my ex and his gf. Everyone knows I'm still mad at them even coming to my house. I find it very disrespectful and my mom told him that he isn't he ashamed of coming by. I wish I had a dad to throw his ass out. I have a stepdad but I don't want to get people in fights. Well anyways the people that are coming are the brother in laws friends who became friends with my ex. All these guys cheat on their wives including my sister. So the ones that are coming are the wives and gfs of these scumbags. These scumbags are all cheaters and talk amongst eachother. I have never know so much about men than I do now. Men gossip just as women and are just as much drama kings. In the circle there are two new women my ex's new gf and another guys new gf. They are new to the scene. The other guy's wife accused him of cheating on her with this new girl that is now around. My sister goes with everything her husband tells her to save face. I told her right to her face that he had no respect for her and I made her cry but I was upset during that time. I knew she was crying because what I told her was true and it hurt for anyone to be treating her this way. Now I see that she accepts it. So back to Saturday there are some new people including a new gay guy friend who is the cousin of the other guys new girlfriend. He recently had asked me about why didn't I have a boyfriend. He asked me about my past relationships and now that my ex is around they would see who I'm talking about. I told him a little about it but I didn't go into details. Turns out that the gay guy met my ex and he liked him. We thought it was funny but again he's going to ask me about my ex. I don't know what to say or about it. I feel I shouldn't be afraid to speak the truth even though he will talk to those trusting guys who will than manipulate their women to not believe what I say. The point is those same women know I'm speaking the truth but don't say anything because they have stolckholm syndrome. My sister does not talk to me about her husband because she knows exactly what I will tell her. I mean yes it's been awhile but I shouldn't feel ashamed about what happened. If people want to know why I don't have a bf than I have the right to speak whether he be around or not. These people aren't my friends. I know the gf will be embarrassed but I really don't really care about how she ends up being seeing. They are mostly my brother in laws friends whose gfs and wives are my sisters associate who she has to put up with. I really can careless all the crap that they have talked about me or will talk about me if I speak the truth about him at the party. This has nothing to do with his gf it has to do between him and I and how I want him to see I'm not afraid to speak out. That is what abusers want for you to stay quiet about their wrongdoings. So what should I do about all this mess.
I found Vaknin to be very insightful. Although, I am still sad that there isn't really an effective treatment for malignant narcissism.
I Love your video's. I started with some kind of screenplay in 2013, for a great extent to process a relationship with a person with lots of narcissistic traits. But I stopped working on it, it seems I have to feel beteer first before I can go on. I wondered if somebody could become a narcissist at the age of about 35? Because in my screenplay his cruel behaviour and the bad treatment of his wife started years after they were married. In fact it doesn't have to be all realistic, yet it's based on my own story.
Sorry for my spelling guys. The iPhone keys + English as a second language sometimes equals a disaster ;)
A BPD person can be very confused about his identity. He/she when feeling grandiose becomes a total narcissist, but when feeling scared and unsure of himself can turn in to clingy Chaldean needing his "mama"/"papa" for protection. I guess BPD spent their life in search for the parent they never had, and once they find one, the one who loves them unconditionally, they themselves turning in to the type of patent they were raised by: abusive and neglecting. BPD play a complete role reverse with their empathetic partners because they driven by a desire to possess control, so no one will ever hurt them again. For a compassionate pips out there: watch out! BPD/narcissists will do everything to awaken the worst in you just to prove it for themselves that the world is a brutal unsafe place to live in and that no one can be trusted. If you choose to fight them with their own weapon you just supporting their crazy beliefs. So don't! Show them that things in life can work otherwise! How to do that? Don't treat them as an equals in a battle. Read child psychology and parental books and you will really grasp on how to emotionally overcome a desire to go in to full blown war with those spoiled brats….. 😉
Be better.
I gage stuff from the dsm. I don't like labels. I'll help Borderline Personality Disorder people after study. For me this will include people with sociopathic and narcissistic traits. Co-morbid will be with addiction issues. Sam Vaknin, is strange, he does not have a narcissistic diagnosis, he is a diagnosed sociopath. He is playing you….. Borderline Personality Disorder will not be difficult for me to work with, I have compassion for the way I have suffered. Many clinicians I have meet as I work in mental health just don't have the patience to deal with people who have crippling anxiety, really it is easy if you believe them and understand the struggle from a personal experience of same…. Look it up.
On the CONTRARY !!! look a pathological BIAS IN THE ENTIRE System twist here in case if !
2.) NPD=PERPETRATOR of Dom. Abuse = FEMALE = She !!!
So:
*NPD=PERPETRATOR of Abuse = FEMALE = She
* eventually Male victim of NPD-abuse will start to question WHAT is going ON here, as he is going more and more down the hill
**start to discuses finances, events, decisions, behaviors,…etc in the relationship/marriage
* become more & more assertive and finally through this inquisitive and scientific methodology he will eventually
*more & more discover Her manipulative, aggressive and pathological side and totally twisted Explanations, Reasoning and ACTIONS = and predatory Nature !
* male will get more Persistent to go to the bottom of this maze (heading straight into a TRAP!)
* She will start to act as she is a VICTIM behind your back 1. At friends places 2. Then in legal and system’s rooms.. and finally
As she prepare enough documents and letters of support /
* She = NARC= will call a POLICE ! and express all fictional complaints about you. (*in fact exactly very things that she is doing to you – attributing them to mail partner. … (projection & lying)
* Police will eliminate BAY FORCE a husband from his home and family and give him D.V.Restraining.Order.
and lot of trouble in the future for the next 10-20 years.
Can you imagine how a REAL VICTIM = Him is going to feel after a shocking discovery that
*entire System is COVERING UP Female-NARC's Abuse and Aggression and
* letting his children to be delivered to such an Instructor for LIFE ?
* and ruining his life with no 1 sign of remorse or guilt
So my conclusion is: that due to a HUGE System's BIAS
only Male NARC will abandon a Victim,
but
a Female NARC will not Abandon a VICTIM but KICK HIM OUT from his own family and his own home by playing a VICTIM, creating a series of False Accusations and Drama,
and by Perverting entire SYSTEM = POLICE & Court & Social support system.